RevOpsAF The Podcast

Structuring Goals & Thriving with Neurodivergence

Welcome to Episode 34 of the RevOpsAF Podcast! In this episode, co-host Camela Thompson sits down with Ashley Vonella, Director of Revenue Operations at Velocity EHS, to discuss goal-setting strategies for neurodivergent professionals and how to thrive in a demanding RevOps career.
 
🚀 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
✔ How to set realistic, sustainable goals in RevOps
✔ The challenges of hyper-fixation and how to overcome them
✔ Aligning personal career growth with business goals
✔ Strategies for managing stakeholder expectations
✔ Self-advocacy and career progression in RevOps
 
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📩 Connect with Our Guests Ashley Vonella: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyvonella/
Camela Thompson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camela-thompson/
 

The ICP Trap: Why One and Done Isn't Enough

🚀 Is your ICP holding you back?
In this episode of the RevOpsAF Podcast, co-host Matthew Volm sits down with Kristina Diederich, a seasoned RevOps leader, to discuss why defining your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) is not a one-time exercise.
🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
✅ Why most companies get ICP wrong and how to fix it
✅ How to use real customer data to refine your ICP
✅ The biggest red flags that signal it's time to update your ICP
✅ How refining ICP unlocked $500K+ in new revenue for one company
✅ Actionable strategies to optimize your sales, marketing, and CS motions.
 
🔗 Follow Kristina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinadiederich/
🔗 Become a member of the RevOps Co-op: https://www.revopscoop.com/membership/membership-options
 

Perfect Your ICP with Peter Kirk

Struggling to define your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP)? You’re not alone.
In this episode of the RevOpsAF Podcast, Peter Kirk breaks down how to refine your ICP, avoid common pitfalls, and use data-driven insights to attract high-value customers while keeping the wrong ones out of your pipeline.
You'll learn:
✅ Why most ICPs are flawed from the start
✅ How to analyze customer data to find your best-fit accounts
✅ The secret to aligning Sales, Marketing, and CS around your ICP
✅ When and how to update your ICP for scaling success
🎯 If you want higher conversions, better pipeline efficiency, and stronger revenue growth, this video is a must-watch! 📌 Subscribe for more RevOps insights
🔗 Learn more and join the community: www.revopscoop.com
🔗 Follow Peter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petertkirk/ 
 

Do business systems belong in RevOps??

🔥 Should RevOps own business systems? Or should IT take the wheel?
This is a pretty spicy 🌶️ debate in RevOps right now, and we’re diving in on the latest episode of the RevOpsAF Podcast. 🎙️
When you’re a small company, RevOps often wears the systems hat - CRM, automation, reporting, yada, yada, yada.
But as you scale, IT typically steps in . . . which can lead to a tug-of-war over ownership.
@Erick Mahle, VP of RevOps & Digital Transformation at Lendz Financial, joined @Camela Thompson to break it all down:
Who should own business systems—RevOps or IT?
The data governance dilemma (security vs. agility)
How to collaborate and not collide with IT
💭 Erick puts it best:
"How can you ensure the right analytics are in place if you're not in the driver's seat of the business systems that generate that data?"
Not a member of the RevOps Co-op yet? What are you waiting for?? Join us at revopscoop.com.
Follow Erick on LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickmahle/
 

Pre-CPQ Mistakes to Avoid

🚀 Avoid These CPQ Mistakes Before It's Too Late!
Thinking about implementing CPQ (Configure, Price, Quote) software? Hold up - many companies buy CPQ too early, overcomplicate pricing models, or forget to align with finance, leading to major headaches down the road.
In this episode of the RevOpsAF Podcast, co-host Camela Thompson sits down with James McArthur, Head of RevOps at Nue.io, to break down the most common CPQ pitfalls and how to avoid them.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
✅ Why most companies buy CPQ too early - and what to do instead
✅ How overengineering pricing models can create chaos
✅ When product-led growth (PLG) and usage-based pricing make sense (and when they don’t)
✅ Why finance must be involved in your CPQ strategy
✅ The best way to set up your quoting process without overcomplicating it
If you’re in RevOps, Sales Ops, or Finance and dealing with pricing, quoting, and sales automation - this episode is a must-watch!
📌 Related Resources & Links:
🔹 Connect with James on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrmcarthur/
🔹 The Next Generation of Quote-to-Revenue: Simplify SaaS Pricing with Nue - https://www.revopscoop.com/revops-demos/the-next-generation-of-quote-to-revenue-simplify-saas-pricing-with-nue
🔹 How to Think About the CPQ Problem - https://www.revopscoop.com/learn/video-series/how-to-think-about-the-cpq-problem
🔹 A 2024 RevOps Guide to Usage-Pricing and Billing - https://www.revopscoop.com/webinar-series/usage-pricing-and-billing
🔹 Why Modern RevOps is About Sales and Billing - https://www.revopscoop.com/webinar-series/revops-sales-billing
🔹 The Most Overlooked Hurdle in Accelerating GTM Execution: Closing the Deal - https://www.revopscoop.com/learn/video-series/the-most-overlooked-hurdle-in-accelerating-gtm-execution-closing-the-deal
💬 Timestamps:
00:00 Intro – Why CPQ is a hot topic in RevOps
02:15 The #1 CPQ mistake: Buying too early
05:30 Overengineering pricing models—stop doing this!
09:45 PLG & usage-based pricing: When they work and when they don’t
14:20 CPQ success starts with finance
18:30 Final thoughts: Should you buy CPQ? 👍
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The AI Impact on Revenue Operations

🚀 AI is changing RevOps—are you keeping up?
In this episode of the RevOpsAF Podcast, we sit down with Jake Hofwegen, VP of Revenue Operations & Enablement at Contentful, to discuss how AI is automating RevOps workflows, deal desk approvals, territory planning, and sales operations faster than ever before. 💡
What you’ll learn in this episode:
✅ How AI is replacing outdated RevOps processes
✅ Why AI-powered deal desk and RFP automation is a game-changer
✅ The best ways to experiment with AI in RevOps without breaking things
✅ How AI will impact RevOps career growth (Hint: it’s an opportunity, not a threat!)
Follow Jake on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/salesproductivity/ 🔔
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Hiring Moneyball

Looking to build a high-performing RevOps or sales team? 📈 In this episode of the RevOpsAF Podcast, co-host Matthew Volm sits down with Jeremey Donovan, Operating Advisor at Insight Partners, to discuss how applying Moneyball-style hiring strategies can help revenue teams make smarter, data-driven hiring decisions.
👉 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
✔️ Why a candidate’s tenure in past roles is a top predictor of success
✔️ The surprising truth about whether team sports make better salespeople 🏀 ⚾
✔️ How to use data analysis to identify the best SDR, AE, and CRO candidates
✔️ The #1 mistake companies make in hiring revenue leaders (and how to avoid it)
✔️ Why RevOps leaders should play an active role in hiring decisions
🎧 Listen in to discover how you can get a competitive edge in hiring the right talent.
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📶 Connect with Jeremey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremeydonovan/
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How AI Killed Cold Prospecting

In this episode of the RevOpsAF podcast, Co-Host Camela Thompson sits down with Liv Porter from Cloud Adoption Solutions to explore how AI is transforming outbound sales and whether it has truly killed cold prospecting.
Topics Covered:
📌 Has AI killed cold outbound?
📌 Declining email open and reply rates
📌 The rise of AI spam detection
📌 How to improve sales outreach in 2025
📌 The comeback of relationship-building and in-person events
Tune in to learn actionable tips for navigating the evolving sales landscape and standing out in the noise!
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Follow Liv on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/i-am-olivia-porter/
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RevOps KPIs - Measuring Team Efficacy

In this episode, Matthew Volm, CEO & Co-founder of RevOps Co-op, sits down with Henry Mizel, SVP of Revenue Operations at Apollo.io, to dive deep into RevOps KPIs: how to measure team efficacy and drive strategic business outcomes.
 
Key Topics Covered:
✔️ What KPIs matter most in RevOps?
✔️ Structuring an effective RevOps team
✔️ Aligning revenue operations strategy with business objectives
✔️ Using OKRs and quarterly planning for better execution
✔️ Optimizing MQL conversion rates and demo flows
✔️ Measuring RevOps impact on sales, marketing, and customer success
 
Key Takeaways:
→ How Henry’s team at Apollo.io improved MQL to demo conversion rates by 40% using data enrichment
→ Why a centralized RevOps model improves alignment and efficiency
→ Best practices for setting and tracking RevOps metrics
 
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How to Measure and Improve Lead-to-Cash

Who out there still thinks marketing stops at the top of the funnel? 🤨
That may have been the case way back when, but not today.
Today, marketing spans the full funnel - from lead-to-cash.
Alexis Boucher, Revenue Architect at Vasco, spills the RevOps tea on why the lead-to-cash process is the real game-changer 🪄
If you want to unlock a few lead-to-cash secrets, then give this one a listen 🔑
Follow Alexis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-boucher-27a956a4/
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